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Israel celebrates its independence from humanity

Wednesday, April 21st, 2010

Desert Peace
Mon, 19 Apr 2010 14:15 EDT

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For full text of the Israeli Declaration of Independence, click HERE
Tomorrow Israel will celebrate its Day of Independence. Thousands of Israelis will gather in parks and prepare the Hibachis which were carefully put away in storage a year ago. It’s a happy day for those very people that seem to be totally oblivious to the suffering which resulted from the Declaration which created the state.
At the time, in 1948, it was recognised as a progressive move to create that entity. In fact, it was the Soviet Ambassador (Andrei Gromyko) to the United Nations that officially made the motion in the General Assembly to partition what then was Palestine. It was the long awaited day when the sun continued to set on the British Empire. Just nine months earlier India was able to print their currency without the image of King George on it.
In reality, however, it was not only Britain that Israel declared its independence from, on that day Israel declared its independence from all of humanity. At the very moment Israel’s independence became official, Palestine ceased to exist. Both sides of the partition that was meant to be became Israel’s, a situation that has thus lasted for 62 years.
That was just the beginning of a long history of ignoring resolutions passed by the United Nations….. with every resolution came the same reply; "anti-Semitism"….with every resolution came a U.S. Veto…. read about it HERE.
Yet, they get way with it and continue to receive the support of the West, both financially and morally. Their ‘lobby’ in the United States, especially, seems to have most elected officials under their control.
Psychological Warfare
It is not a coincidence that Israel declared a day of remembrance to the victims of the Holocaust exactly one week before its day of independence. This is to remind the world how much the Jews suffered and why they should get special treatment. A day before Independence Day (today) is Memorial Day for Fallen Soldiers and Civilians. This is to instill in the minds of Israelis themselves the continued suffering they are experiencing. Memorial Day ends at 8 PM Monday and Independence Day begins immediately.
When I first came to this country almost 26 years ago, we were literally dragged off by representatives of the Jewish Agency to the Military Cemetery in Jerusalem to view the thousands of graves of dead Israeli soldiers. We were then taken to celebrations in the evening to experience the joys of independence. We were told that this was a demonstration of the schizophrenic nature of the Jewish people, one minute mourning, the next minute celebrating. It was SICK to say the least.
Never was there mention of the ongoing suffering of the Palestinian people. Never was there mention of how many of those soldiers died because of aggressive attacks against innocent Palestinian civilians. Yet, those attacks continue to this day and they get away with it….
Has the time not come for the West and the rest of the world to see through Israel’s games?
Is it not time for the world to finally declare its independence from this terrorist entity??
Is it not time for the people of Palestine to raise their own flag in their own recognised State???
The answers my friends are ‘Blowin in the wind’…..

 

 

http://www.sott.net/articles/show/207261-Israel-celebrates-its-independence-from-humanity

Washington is Selling Servitude

Friday, August 7th, 2009

By Brian Roberts

Article 2 in Series, Restoring Freedom: An Entrepreneur’s Perspective – click here for part 1

Washington is selling servitude.

  • We watched as they destroyed the financial sector by forcing banks to give loans to people that could not afford them… then they stepped in to “save the day” by gaining direct control of our financial sector.
  • We watched as they destroyed a once powerful automotive industry through excessive regulation and labor union control… then they stepped in to “save the day” by gaining direct control of our automotive industry.
  • We listened as they verbally assaulted capitalism when government regulations were to blame.
  • We watched as they asked the American people to fund a $1 trillion dollar stimulus bill, they yelled emergency as they slipped cash from our children’s pockets to their political allies.
  • We watched, as they worked to destroy the rule of law by arbitrarily dictating revised terms to legal contracts and installing a Supreme Court justice that promotes social justice over rule-of-law.
  • We know, they intend to control our children, it’s written in the GIVE Act.
  • We know, they intend to control our resources, it’s written in the Cap and Trade Bill.
  • We know, they intend control of our very lives, it’s written in the Health Care Bill.
  • We know, they intend to control our votes, the 2010 census is now controlled by the white house and the ones registering voters are corrupt
  • We watch and wait as they install unaccountable czars for dictating  not representing
  • We watch and wait as they increase “organizer” funding from millions to billions of our tax dollars. And we wonder how these groups will be used to steal our life, liberty and property from us.

The fifth sentence of the Declaration of Independence states, “But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.”

Our product of freedom is competing with an illegal product. The federal government does not have the constitutional authority to sell servitude. It’s that simple. The 10th amendment positions our competitor as an outlaw and recent actions in Washington reaffirm this claim. This brings us to our first point of strategic significance:

A movement based on the 10th amendment is undeniably lawful and moral.

Washington is selling servitude. On fundamental issues, we the people are no longer represented by our national politicians. Our political leaders do not respect the people. They do not bother to read bills that steal away our money and freedom, but then they support these bills aggressively. They set up final votes at midnight in hopes that we do not notice the theft. They pit us against one another by highlighting trivial, but polarizing issues. When the people scream for a solution that doesn’t fit their personal quest for power they shelve the debate instead of making changes that would benefit the people. Despite this disrespect, many national leaders stay in office forever and when real opportunities arise to fill seats with true freedom oriented candidates, the establishment candidates step up, promote and install new big government-types that are mirror images of themselves. It is about personal power not representation. Washington is selling servitude.

Now, thinking like an entrepreneur, Washington used to be a strong ally in our quest to sell individual freedom. Together, we sold freedom to the world and earned the honorable title of “The shining city on the hill”. However, they have now decided to sell servitude. Washington has become a lost distribution channel for our product. Yes, they still want to offer our product, but only so they can do a bait and switch routine and create more customers for servitude. If we continue with these dynamics then the market share for servitude will quickly dominate the market share for freedom. And further compounding our problem, the federal government is a strong distribution channel and finding other channels that can compete is a challenge. To solve this problem, we need a game-changer, something that will expand our more loyal distribution channels while limiting theirs.

The 10th amendment states, “The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.” This one sentence if effectively used to counter federal power can quickly shift power back to a more local level.

A movement based on the 10th amendment fundamentally changes the political landscape in favor of individual freedom.

Washington is selling servitude. Democrats are selling it outright as if servitude itself was a great product. Most Republicans are packaging it with just a dose of freedom so it goes down a little smoother. But when it comes to the fundamentals like smaller government and individual freedom neither party in Washington is representing us consistently. Both parties are using a horizontal marketing approach and this leaves “we the people” out. Let me explain.

In product marketing, you can position products for sale through a horizontal channel or a vertical channel. The national parties have broad horizontal platforms that work great when selling servitude because it allows them to pick and choose which “selling point” to highlight, which “product deficiencies” to hide and which controversial product features they can use to distract from the outright bugs in their product offering.

If you seek to bring a revolutionary product, such as freedom, to market then vertical marketing is key because it has the ability to capture a significant market share quickly and with minimal budget. The key to success is based on focus.

By focusing on a singular message our demands for more localized control of government will quickly be adopted in positions held by local politicians, followed by state politicians who are emboldened by a loud voice beating the same drum. Whether state politicians are driven to our message by greed or ideals the result is the same, a new ally with a legal precedent to counter federal abuse of power. This can happen in a dramatic way in the next election cycle.

A movement based on the 10th encourages a state government, accountable to the people locally, to challenge the federal government directly.

So how does this all tie together? Dual-power is the sharing of power between the federal government and the state government. This was a fundamental check on power that was envisioned by our founders and written into the Constitution and Bill of Rights.

Over the last 100 years, through judicial decisions, constitutional amendment and by simply ignoring it, the 10th amendment has been watered down significantly. Much of this can be changed if the people demand these changes with clarity. If the message is not clear, the the federal government will appease the population with trinkets of freedom but maintain the power to sell more and more servitude.

The 10th goes right for the jugular of federal power, it changes the overall dynamics and it does this through a legal means. A movement based on the 10th clearly has large strategic value in and of itself. The 10th also delivers strong tactical value on how to bring freedom to market. Next…

Brian Roberts is the President and a founder of an innovative software company in Texas. He has joined the tenth amendment movement as the meetup organizer of Texas Tenth Amendment Center. Follow Brian on Twitter, bcroberts_99.

Additional Reading:

  1. Crossing the Chasm to Freedom
  2. The Pincer Movement

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The Constitution Says Obama Can’t Be President. And Neither Could Reagan

Wednesday, August 5th, 2009

Chris Kelly
The Huffington Post
Mon, 03 Aug 2009 11:28 UTC

 

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Obama’s ofishill birth cert

 

Barack Obama’s birthday is tomorrow (or is it?) and in the spirit of gift giving, I’ve got something for the 28% of Republicans who don’t believe Obama was born in America: An invitation to common ground.
Here’s the first place we can agree: It would be nice if the president would ask Hawaii to release his original, long form birth certificate.
There are all kinds of perfectly good moral, legal and political reasons why he shouldn’t, but, frankly, I’m still tuckered out from all the perfectly good moral, legal and political reasons Hillary Clinton wouldn’t release the Rose Law Firm billing records.
I’m not going through that hell again.
Here’s the second place we can agree: The rule of law is a good thing.
Lincoln said:

As the patriots of seventy-six did to the support of the Declaration of Independence, so to the support of the Constitution and Laws let every American pledge his life, his property, and his sacred honor; let every man remember that to violate the law is to trample on the blood of his father, and to tear the character of his own and his children’s liberty. Let reverence for the laws be breathed by every American mother to the lisping babe that prattles on her lap – let it be taught in schools, in seminaries, and in colleges – let it be written in primers, spelling books, and almanacs – let it be preached from the pulpit, proclaimed in legislative halls, and enforced in courts of justice.

That goes double for me. Can’t get enough of that Constitution and Laws. When it comes to the Constitution and Laws I’m right there, lisping and prattling like Glenn Beck.
My children may not have primers, spelling books or almanacs — because they go to school in California — but they understand that we can’t pick and choose which laws we obey and which we don’t. If we acted like that, we’d be no better than wild animals in the jungle or Dick Cheney.
Here’s the third place we can agree: If the Constitution says Barack Obama is ineligible to be president, he’s ineligible to be president.
The Constitution is always right because the Framers were infallible, even about slavery and not letting women and Indians vote. The Constitution means what it says and says what it means, not unlike Horton Hatches an Egg, if it had been written 230 years ago by 55 guys.
The Constitution says:

"No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.

And that’s what it means.
I’m sorry, but I don’t think we can get Obama on the "natural born" part. I don’t know what it means and neither do you, and neither did the Founding Fathers. I think it had something to do with not letting Louis XVI be president or black people vote, but your guess is as good as mine. And guesses don’t count.
The only person I’m absolutely certain is a natural born man is Bo Diddley.
Luckily, we don’t have to interpret what they were getting at. That’s why God created Originalism and sent us Antonin Scalia.
Originalism forbids interpretation. (Which could lead to thinking.) It says the document is what it is. We’ll never know what the Framers meant, so the safest thing to do is exactly what they say.
So we can agree: Every word in the Constitution, no matter how oblique or arcane, is there for a reason and any president who violates it is gone, or our system collapses, strangers steal our mail, and our sons start playing with dolls.
Good. Now let’s talk about the phrase "a Citizen of the United States at the time of the adoption of this Constitution."

Six simple words that mean exactly what they say. No spin. According to the clear letter of the law of the United States Constitution, Barack Obama can’t be president, even if he was born in Hawaii, because Hawaii wasn’t a state when the Constitution was adopted.
In 1788.
For their own impenetrable but absolutely unambiguous reasons, the Framers made a rule that says you can only be president if you were born in one of the original 13 colonies.
Sorry Bill Clinton, Ronald Reagan, Jimmy Carter, Gerald Ford, Richard Nixon, Lyndon Johnson, Dwight Eisenhower, Ulysses Grant, William McKinley, James Garfield, William Howard Taft, Harry Truman, Herbert Hoover, Harding, Harrison and Hayes. A rule’s a rule. Get out.
What are you smiling at, Abe? Kentucky didn’t join the Union until 1792. Take your almanac, your primer and your lisping baby and scram.
Wait a second. I just had a thought. What if Article 2, Section One of the Constitution couldn’t possibly mean what it literally says?

"No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President…"

Read it again. It’s not just about where you were born. It says you can never be president unless you were alive in 1788.
That leaves out everyone but Robert Byrd.
I’m not saying we can’t nullify the election. I’m just saying we can’t do it without interpreting the Constitution. And we can’t interpret the Constitution, because then we’d be no better than one of those horrible activist judges who legislates from the bench.
Next thing you know, we’d be feeling empathy.

 

http://www.sott.net/articles/show/190622-The-Constitution-Says-Obama-Can-t-Be-President-And-Neither-Could-Reagan

YouTube – The Declaration of Independence – 2009

Wednesday, July 15th, 2009

 

It is time for the voice of America to be heard. This is the draft of the 2009 Declaration of Independence, citing the injustices of the American government against its people.
We present this with the hope that, upon bearing enough signatures, we may present this to the Federal Government to perhaps open their eyes that the people are no longer a mass of blind, brainwashed, conditioned sheep, raised only to bend to their will.
The government is BY the people, FOR the people. Now is the time for your voice to be heard. This may be your final chance.

YouTube – The Declaration of Independence – 2009

What some call conversation

Thursday, July 9th, 2009

read some of this shit, if the attitude of self proclaimed activists playing devils advocate doesnt piss you off youre probably stupid or dont care.

Verndewd

  • joseph ferrara Says:
    July 5th, 2009 at 2:26 pm

    An army of people simply need to self organize around right principle. Are you a free and sovereign soul, are you a human resource or are you just confused. The common founding principle of our society is Individual Sovereignty. This is the hallmark of the Declaration of Independence which is the founding force of law in this land.

    The constitution is a framework for implementing this fundamental law of the land. Education into even a simple understanding of American political science is really the first order of business.

    United States of America is a spiritual nation. Liberty and Freedom are spiritual principles which can only be obtained by personal discipline and aspiration. They are not commodities to bought and sold with money. Once attained, spiritual power a becomes personal power that will never surrender and can never be taken away.

    Declare your Sovereignty and just stop. Legally and ethically, fraud violates all contracts. The obvious being revealed today is that banking, industry and government agencies are an incestuous criminal enterprise that has enslaved everyone with a clever use of contract law. Fraud violates all contracts. Return to Constitutional law. Stand fast on the supreme law laid our in the Declaration of Independence.

    Strengthen you personal power to be free of this slavery and just stop; or gradually stop. Stop buying all processed food, stop watching TV/Cable News, stop paying student loans, mortgages and credit cards, declare your self free from all government mandates, agencies and bureaucracies. These are all elements of contract law. Fraud violates all contracts.
    Such acts are not random, whimsical, spiteful or resentful. The characteristics of a Sovereign Soul are thoughtful, deliberated and willful acts for the common good. The work is not to reform but to reorder self governance and social services around right principle loyal to the public trust and general welfare..
    Relearn and realign yourself within and without. Find your center of integrity and associate with those also living with a personal measure of integrity. Declare your Sovereignty and renew the Declaration of Independence in your life and restore Constitutional Law in your life. Educate yourself, practice for yourself; and then get to know your family, friends and neighbors and support their education; live and practice living life in the principle of Liberty and Freedom with Justice for all.

    In this time, when the turn of events is bringing the defense of Liberty back into the open, we don’t need an army of complainers, we need an army of doers.
    The United States of America is the New World Order. Established on the principle of equal sovereignty for all it started a social order never before seen in the world. What’s masquerading under this baner today is a last ditch effort to maintain the Old World Order where a pope, king or military Emperor deemed authority to rule over the masses. This is 16th century thinking which is just over, obsolete and seriously old fashioned.
    Please remember, that individual liberty and freedom is not something you are rewarded for good deeds or special favors. Liberty and freedom is something you declare; and when you do that only then can you live as a Sovereign Soul blessed with the liberty of Sovereign Citizenship. The Constitution was designed to ensure and protect this primary principle of our society.

    Ignorance is the chain of slavery. Fear is the lock on the chain. Break the locks and free the chain by educating yourself to the qualities and practices of Individual Sovereignty. What does one such look like? This is the driving question of American education for a nation of pioneering citizens working to create a New World Order with governance of the people, by the people and for the people.
    We are for 200 years and still today an experimental society. Let’s just say: “Game on!” and get to it. What do we do? Learn to live in New Health as a sovereign soul blessed with the liberty of sovereign citizenship.
    This is a topic of serious discussion, creative thinking and thoughtful activity. The New Health Cafe is a place to nourish this work both within and without. Stop by to help organize this work for a better day: 133 Gregory St., Rochester, NY 14620; newhealthcafe@gmail.com. Peace & goodwill, joseph

  • Vernon nielsen Says:
    July 5th, 2009 at 4:01 pm

    Allan he is quoting my editorial

    [b]The 4th of july
    July 4th, 2009 / Author: Vernon nielsen[/b]

    2007
    HR 1955 called Americans homegrown terrorists
    2008
    Bush passed a law exempting he and his cabinet from criminal prosecution
    2009
    obama allows a bill that makes psyche tests manditory for veterans to guage gun ownership eligibility

    That doesnt scratch the surface even a bit. the sheer magnitude of the lost freedoms is so staggering and so rediculous yet As bernays set forth , the american buyer is sedated as long as there is SOME form of personal purchasing power.

    Rockerfeller admitted his treason to the USA in his memoirs, the corporatocracy is even now coming into solid existence.

    the UN tells the world to drop the dollar.

    july 4th is a celebration of a new nation that was truly independant; can you honestly say, once you know the legislation that violates our constitution; that there is something worth celebrating?

    Because I cannot.

    july 4th is a dead holiday.

    The right to keep and bear arms HAS been infringed on every level except the final level as englands and australias has.

    Free speech has been violated by hate crime legislation.

    Posse commitatus was vilated several times laste year and will be this year.

    habeas corpus is on the ropes in legislation.

    Miranda rights have been violated this year.

    The guaranteed REPUBLICAN form of government has become democracy , or has it? especially when leaders are chosen by the elite. Making it a corporatocracy under the US corp umbrella.

    Social security is Voluntary yet we arent readilly informed of it.

    tax is voluntary and was always intended as such.

    every amendment as stated in the original documents has been violated and now Obama calls it an antiquated idea.

    When is a public that rules its country in a republic EVER an antiquated ideal.

    Think about that when you light off your bottle rockets, think about the 8+ million laws that lie upon your head. Think about what it took to set in motion the greatest form of government on earth and how our negligence has lost it for us.

    Think about tomorrows children increasingly enslaved by debt and control.

    Todays july 4th celebration is an insult to our founding ideals and the blood of the good people that made our republic possible, and when we light that firework up we can know that we have chosen the side of the enemy by not DOING everything we have the power to do to cast the corporation off of us, and in effect we kill the founding fathers ourselves.

    I know its harsh but its the truth.

    its not a dedicated group of men in tatters celebrating a victory over the most feared foe on earth, Its not the thousands that died to give us a chance, its not the embattled fortresses defending against an un ending parade of murderous thugs.

    Its a boom and a sparkle and an “oooh thats pretty”
    its not the supreme intellect that forged a way for average men to rule as equals
    its a sidestop when going to the market
    a smell in the air that most dont equate with massive deaths
    a glittery remider of nothing but a bernays tactic to enslave
    but
    somewhere
    deep in the psyche of all Americans
    we know what we need to do
    were just enjoying the last moments of a dream that never was
    one we didnt pay enough attention to as crooks came in and subjected us to less than equal status
    ; tomorrow , next week, next year
    somewhere down the road
    america gets off its programmed ass
    and it corrects itself
    and then all hell breaks loose
    but then it breaks loose on brothers who will stand through it.

    and from then on these petty baubles will have purpose. more than they have ever had.

    This 4th of july has past but an ideal remains

    life liberty and the persuit of happiness

    men ruling as equals , hiring representatives for interstate and international arrangements.

    Making their own laws

    writing their own fates

    I want our world viewers to know that it is within the reach of ALL men to have these things. That our community as a populace is global. We are all one body of organisms on one body of earth.

    We love we hate we tell truths we lie we give and we take and we strive for greater things. We believe and we hope, and this planet is ours, it is up to the poulace to maintain it, to maintain equality, to never give in to idolatry that allows the masses to be herded into cages and chains.

    to share our cultures as children exploring nature.

    To govern ourselves and reduce government to office clerks who wait on the written agreements of the people to act.

    so the world can reflect our concerns and our pain as one, so the affairs of men can reflect our love and our struggles to have and to share love.

    its up to us to form the next age, lets get it right and remove the corruption, and remake the entire world for the people and by the people.

    I am the sedition against the few ruling the many, I am the sedition that makes everyman equal. i am the sedition that monitors hired public servants and allows no secrecy. I am the coming age of man the revolution man has yearned for all of these centuries.

    ,,,, And so are you.

    “Sarah, if the American people had ever known the truth about what we Bushes have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched.” George Bush Senior speaking in an interview with Sarah McClendon in December 1992

  • Vernon nielsen Says:
    July 5th, 2009 at 4:11 pm

    Suggestions are a dime a dozen as to how the popular assertion is made.

    Its far less an ideal than you might think.

    Are you a sovereign human on this earth?
    do you give your power to someone other than you?
    and if so can you fathom even in the smallest sense the idea of retaking your own sovereignty?

    step 2

    leaders abound in droves who are motivated and have vision. call this the offcial congress of human kind.

    find a group that suits you and place your input and vision on the table.

    step 3

    remind our countrymen that the majority rules, and no government office is untouchable.
    bear in mind these often deluded people are humans and can be swayed to support the masses in legal and righteous manner and those who cannot be swayed from corruption are at the mercy of the masses.

    focus on brotherhood, focus on the fact that the human being is one family of species. We all have basic comon emotional and rational features.

    step 4

    increase your awareness and others awareness.

    step 5

    petition the peoples representatives with reason and logic and law in massive numbers until they speak straight from the masses mouths. never let up never give in.

    these basic ideas can be elaborated on for what would be the greatest revolution without blood the world will ever know.

  • Vernon nielsen Says:
    July 5th, 2009 at 4:31 pm

    I stated it metaphorically to a friend today

    There are many people running to the hills as it were, seeking to avoid what we all seem to believe is enevitable.

    The bull is loose in the town and the town in ruin with few herders trying to lasso the bastard ; Do we allow the bull to thrash the entire thing or do we all get into position and cast our own lasso?

    casting a lasso is anything from mentioning the real state of the world to someone with blinders on , to leading a national movement to confront elected officials.

    Then there is what we do

    extensive research on the web , where we feed several thousand visitors every month with news history and opinion, I like to call it unsolicited direction, and the quantum physical track back is that in time the ideas seed through out the entire thing.

    My best advice is do what ypou feel you must and honor our rigteous laws while doing so. Tell your elected officials that ” You are my microphone, you are the peoples loud speaker, every single one of you and should you fail to be that , we will unplug the power to you, you will not pervert the voice of america with acceptance of agenda or bribe or special interest”

    I said as much to Walt minnick in person.

    I charge the rest of you with doing as much if only among yourselves.

  • larry Says:
    July 5th, 2009 at 5:16 pm

    I have stated this a few times on this board:
    If Americans had half of the will that the Iranian people have ( and now the Hondurans ), we wouldn’t be in the mess we are in. But instead, we care more about American Idol then the direction this nation is heading. we deserve this mess.. All of it.

  • Vernon nielsen Says:
    July 5th, 2009 at 5:24 pm

    Also Allan , on one hand you say corruption and on the other you absolve sin in the same sense.

    Make a decision
    Do you tell your employees what to do or do you cuase dissent among patriots dtracting from their vigor with argumentativeness.

    Voting isnt effective Allan; not in this day and age where expensive campaigns are created with massive media corroboration to the degree that a successful propagandizing limits the effective truths of a ron paul to the category of conspiracy.

    Inject Two delegates both born on foreign soil and promote the hell out of them and voting takes the prescribed backseat to design and oligarchal control.

    wheres the vote count in that, when great intellectual ideas are plagiarized from JFK’s speech writer and sold to america with a socialist spin through obama?

    wheres the vote that matter here?

    Where is the original juridiction when the organic acts of 1801 and 1871 created a corporate representation of the government and then the SSA created a corporate representation of the person also eliminating their natural sovereignty.

    Allan you are dangerously mis informed, the electoral college needs to disappear as does the electronic vote, and people need to pen their vote and that needs to be scanned into a database.

    case in point for how voting is ineffectual given the lack of public regulation, and I believe that everything under the sun in this country should be publicly regulated and we should print our own money .

    Cynthia
    Mckinney was denied re elcetion because her opponents told their cosntituents to vote democratic and they introduced a false democratic candidate to battle for the votes ,,,, why ?
    she wanted an open investigation into 9/11 and one that all science would confirm, She didnt get that and Architects and engineers for 9/11 who number in the thousands still offer proof that CORP US is lying through its teeth.

    Now I suspect , Allan that youll continue in argument rather than self inform and to all others responding to allan I suggest you cease, there is work to be done and Allan wont be joining us yet.

  • Vernon nielsen Says:
    July 5th, 2009 at 5:35 pm

    larry Says:
    July 5th, 2009 at 5:16 pm
    I have stated this a few times on this board:
    If Americans had half of the will that the Iranian people have ( and now the Hondurans ), we wouldn’t be in the mess we are in. But instead, we care more about American Idol then the direction this nation is heading. we deserve this mess.. All of it.

    i couldnt disagree more larry

    Since the early 1900’s corporate campaigns have been engineered to manipulate the mids of americans.
    bernays made it work extremely well drawing on psychological models discovered by his uncle and two others in the field of psychology.

    Sigmund frued was his uncle.

    you introduce an advanced form of manipulation on an unsuspecting populace and gain control and its not their fault. its only their fault if they know it and go along anyways.

    we dont deserve this larry. We simply forgot how to intellectually defend ourselves. no one deserves this.

  • Vernon nielsen Says:
    July 5th, 2009 at 5:50 pm

    one footnote larry

    America modernized the world and made vast technological advances.
    We shaped the land regardless of how hard it was.
    We set standards and help other countries attain them.

    When america takes the curtain down and bares its raw will, heads will roll and gods will run.

    Its not that we have no will its that we all arent agreed on the proper course of action or if action is needed. Most dont really realize the corrption as the media spins the truth off as conspiracy theory.

    Were the only nation in the world that has the guns and the will to do what is needed, all we lack is a common information base, once that is established and cannot be disproven , america will not only clean house but will put down the ones that caused this for the entire world.

    were bad ass mothers when we need to be, Never doubt the strength of this country brother.

  • larry Says:
    July 5th, 2009 at 11:06 pm

    Couldn’t disagree with you more Vernon,

    you gave a great speach, and it hits home ( for us who care )
    But, you don’t give Americans enough credit this is their choice!. As the founder of Trends Research Institute Gerald Celente said. “With the amount of information available, There is no excuse for the ignorance that Americans are displaying” Mr. Celente was referring to the consolidation of world Government. But enough of quoting others.

    My Reply to your statements:

    “America modernized the world and made vast technological advances.”- Yes because of Capitalism, just like Japan, Korea, and many, many more.
    “We shaped the land regardless of how hard it was.”- Yes because of the lack of interference of a centralized government.

    “We set standards and help other countries attain them.”- Gotta take issue with you on this one Vernon…
    We do it to impose our foreign policies and to assert our will, Every country we “set standards” for Has a Mcdonalds and Levi Strauss hanging on their retail racks. ever notice how every single state looks exactly the same? same National stores, traffic lights, goods, services, and products? You can be dropped off in any city in any state with your eyes closed, Open them and the landscape will look like home.. Well, the landscape is very much the same in foreign countries.
    Step off a plane in Heathrow airport in London.. it doesn’t look any different then O’Hare in Chicago, Same Wendy’s Mcdonalds, KFC,.. Drive a few clicks on the M25 and you find Costco.. in fact England has 11 costco’s Same giant stores, same great products..Want KFC?.it’s in India. While in Germany, stop in at your friendly walmart, if your getting a little home sick. Looking for toys for your kids while in Spain?..go to Toys R US. At the risk of sounding Cleché, I digress…

    Americans are consumed with what pleases them. The next time you are curious what Americans place as a priority, just look at what the AP reports as “Breaking news” Michael Jackson, and Tennessee QB McNair.
    This is what America cares about. Not the fact that we are selling our selves out. I hate to say it but there seems to be just a handful of people who actually care, granted, the list is growing, but the Federal power Grab is out pacing the amount of people who are getting on board.

    You are right, we are all of those things, and much more, if only someone had the right remote control to ‘CLICK’ Americans off their fat overweight asses and do something besides worry about their favorite prime time TV show interfering with their Kid’s bathtime. It seems to me that we are in dire need of getting hit with a giant stick in order to jarr people awake, A month long black out, Massive fuel shortages, food shortages.. anything to get the American public out of the living room and over to the neighbors house to collectively find out “WHAT HAPPENED?” and “where is everyone going?”.. we need the paddles because at this point, we are flat lining.
    Look at Iran, these people march by the tens of thousands in the streets!, this is called conviction, patriotism. Fellow countrymen marching as one, against their screwed up government… and we just sit in the Lazy-boy, and shake our big dumb heads at the news, and silently bitch and complain about the state of our nation. we sit idly by while people we vote in screw us for special interest money. forget about the Majority, they are asleep at the wheel, what about us who care? Yes, we have guns, yes at one time we would have marched against tyranny. But we have been guilted into keeping our mouths shut for fear of being called redneck, or racist, or extremists.. I would bet the majority of people on this site are just like me, gun owners, who, at night when left alone with their thoughts have thought about resistance.. but Violence is definitely not the answer because we all have to much to loose.. self defense is another matter.

    In the past we would have stood up for our neighbors rights and he would have done the same for us, but those days are over, we don’t even talk to our neighbors anymore, hell, we don’t even know our neighbors anymore, why should we? the days of giving a helping hand or a neighborly hello are over. there is no crop to bring in, or Barns to be raised, we are lucky if we can muster up the guts to borrow a set of jumper cables or a snow shovel. What we need is what we aint got.. we need to find a reason to get together..and it has to be as important to you, as it is to the stranger on the street.. something like food.. or fuel, or power.. something that puts everyone in the same boat… with no oars. something that money can’t solve, something that can only be solved by standing together to confront it, something that requires sharing. ‘I have a wood stove and plenty of wood’.., and I notice that you have a lantern, the guy down the street has neither.. but he has plenty of coffee.

  • Allan Hampton Says:
    July 6th, 2009 at 3:13 am

    Right on Larry, you gotta wonder about some of the people posting here and everywhere, do they know what they are saying or merely repeating enemy misleading lingo they are told to say?

    The Tenth Amendment Center is, seems to me, about the Constitution, or more specifically about a part of the Constitution, Amendment X. I think it is a mistake for Americans to view the Constitution as a menu to pick and choose from it what they want to support. The menu concept breeds infighting/misunderstanding among Americans and is the root cause of the demise of Constitutional America. What American in a correct American mind could support unconstitutionality?

    What American could support Congress funding and arming Israel for 60 years? What American could support U.S. Troops involved in Congress’ criminal (unconstitutional) activity at home and abroad? What American, or American Entity, is delegated the authority to judge sin and sinners?

    Americans are constitutionally obligated to judge crime and criminals but only in the USA, not around the world.

    Americans have truly lost their constitutional mind and know not their Duty in Citizenship, which basically is to enforce their Law, the Constitution, on government Officials.

    Allan

  • Vernon nielsen Says:
    July 6th, 2009 at 10:48 am

    Larry , I went through the same frustrations brother, I wasnt as condemnatory in public as you are but I know what youre feeling.

    America is divided into sections of belief , while pro constitutionalists are a rapidly growing segment the effective part of the populace we need to turn the tide is corporate bound.

    Alot of people with corporate jobs that make good money steer clear of this type of dialogue as if it were a plague. The facts are that it needs to get alot worse for them before they act. And by the time that happens many of us will be seeded deeply in our own processes and they could be on their own to learn what they need to.

    larry you seem to forget that an intentional psychological war has been waged on america for over 60 yrs, being that most americans arent savvy to psychological technique your condemnation comes off as short sighted and selfish emotional outbursting.

    A proper perspective is do what you think you must and stop worrying about the other guy. Ypou cant get anything accomplished thinking about what others dont do or what you perceive to be a lack of action.

    You have to have faith in your own walk and perfect it as much as possible before others see the light you bear and follow.

  • Vernon nielsen Says:
    July 6th, 2009 at 11:09 am

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbvCrEI8-Gg

  • Vernon nielsen Says:
    July 6th, 2009 at 1:58 pm

    and larry our efforts arent in vain

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=BOY20090706&articleId=14246

    here is ONE example of a patriotic representative doing her job to protect americans. and there are more and the numbers are growing.

  • Vernon nielsen Says:
    July 6th, 2009 at 3:32 pm

    also rather than some shallow and predesigned package called transparency I suggest that we americans push for public regulator standards and commitees.

    All manner of american affairs be they domestic or foreign need a public forum without the corporate constraints of the puppet government.

    We have to draw the line in the sand, and once we do and gain some momentum , more americans will join ranks. All government affairs need public regulatory oversight; of course in varying stages pertaining to the nature of their senitivity.

    I like to think of it in terms of getting hold of something; when your hands are on it and your grasp is firm it cannot do other than you allow.

    thats what is needed and that is what we should do.

  • Joseph Ferrara Says:
    July 6th, 2009 at 9:51 pm

    “Government that governs best, governs the least,” Thomas Jefferson

    We’ve be taught this to be a wishful aphorism. In practice, this idiom was the aim of many among the world’s first self declared sovereign citizens. The establishment of the united States of America could be seen as the world’s first successful slave revolt. Many knew the legend of Spartacus. The folks in that day tried their best to get along with the royals, who would have none of it that wasn’t subservient.

    The justification of government was to maintain order among the ignorant masses, to extract taxes for providing this service and to make laws to regulate public behavior and to finance exploratory adventures. The American logic, now free from any royal or papal injunction, is that if a group of people can live in mutual defense, and live by a common law of behavior, there would be less and less need for government regulation except for organizing collectives for the common good.

    Three things took hold in early 1800s America:

    The peace movement put forth a millennium vision of day when the general society would be learned and sophisticated in knowledge and good grace.

    The abolition movement was and still is today the world’s only true end of slavery with a vision of fulfilling the declaration of that “all Men are created equal.”

    The woman’s equality movement was begun not by resentful victims but by fathers and brothers and mothers and daughters and sons knowing that a capital “M” for man included all of humanity.

    These were not movements of aggression, agitation or anger, they were movements of vision, education, discipline and practice of the principles they professed. This is the lineage of all American citizens then, today and forever.

    The common characteristic of a conquered nation is the lack of lineage.

    Stop complaining. Declare your sovereignty and start learning and living in the lineage of a self-directed life with principle and purpose.

    Of course, it’s easier said than done. But, the alternative is slavery — sophisticated, less brutal, even comfortable — with most of the country being little more than upscale labor camps.

    One way is to Just Stop.

    One suggestion is for We the People to use these internet tools to schedule a week long holiday. No work, no school, suspend all obligations without penalty. Spend the time with family, friends and neighbors. Organize teach ins to educate and discuss the ways for local sustainability. Take care of the needy and have a good time free from all stress and take time to create your own vision of the future we will leave to our children.

    We don’t need them – banker, industrialists, investors — they need us. Our world isn’t falling apart. Their world is falling apart. Just let it go. There is genius in every man and woman in every street in every town. Let’s just take a week off from this foolishness and restore a New Health to ourselves, our families and our community.

    Yes. these sketches need to be filled our and yes, there are other ideas that seem more productive than writing letters to criminals to please not do such bad things to me, or, please stop breaking the rules.

  • Joseph Ferrara Says:
    July 6th, 2009 at 10:00 pm

    The common causation of today ills is the abduction of society into a great social experiment according to theories that are now known to be false.

    This is easily seen with a rudimentary understanding of American philosophy: Pragmatictism as developed by Charles Pierce (not known by most because while it may be referenced it is not taught in schools). A fundamental axiom of pragmaticism is the full abduction of society, i.e. a free flow of knowledge from the highest studies to the most humble task. As an American philosophy predicated on Individual Sovereignty, access to knowledge is the primary factor for a successful self-directed life both personally and socially.

    The 20th century marks a time when experimental social theories, now known to be false, were imposed on society through the consolidation of thinking and activity among banking, industry and the usurping the people’s linage and legacy of self governance with election fraud and continued violations of the public trust in media, medicine and education.

    Two predicates of the theories adapted by industrialists at the turn of the last century in their aspiration of creating the perfect industrial society are:

    1. The human being is a product of the environment; therefore, if you can control the environment you can control the development of humanity.

    2. The body is a machine that can be studied and understood for efficient maintenance; that thoughts and emotions are complex chemical equations in response to external stimulus.

    Enshrining these two theories as the exclusive, official doctrine of public education, medical research and social policy, constricted the development and flow of knowledge and traditional American medical and educational practices were declared foolish and often illegal.

    With this centralized dictate of knowledge and study, our social contract was shifted from one of individual sovereignty and the development of personal power for a successful self-directed life to one of human resources trained for specific tasks that were deemed by ‘experts’ to be beneficial to an industrial society. Creative expression was replaced with industrial production as a measure of personal wealth and social progress.

    The result of wrong thinking is every where to be seen. Society is the aggregate of individuals. Restore social health by restoring, improving personal health.

  • Vernon nielsen Says:
    July 6th, 2009 at 11:23 pm

    excellent commentary ,Joseph.

  • larry Says:
    July 7th, 2009 at 7:55 pm

    Vern,
    You have been programed to react to passion and conviction as a “psychological technique”. Contrary to your politically correct approach to debate, Not every strong word should be taken as a personal attack. While It is wildy popular to defend our position by taking offense to an otherwise perfectly suitable tone concerning this subject ( politics ) your reply shows that we first communicate that we have been offended. In doing this we have achieved our objective of steering the debate in a direction that emphasises feelings, and sensitivity, instead of addressing the questions or defending our statements. A very predictable approach to ending debate by one who cannot defend their position.

  • Publius Huldah Says:
    July 7th, 2009 at 8:18 pm

    Joseph Ferrara!
    Re your post of July 6 at 10:00 p.m.:

    For your homework, diagram that first sentence! Then the second, then the third…..

    I have no idea what you are talking about! PH

  • joseph ferrara Says:
    July 8th, 2009 at 2:59 am

    The common causation of today ills is the abduction of society into a great social experiment according to theories that are now known to be false.

    THE COMMON CAUSATION: article, adjective, adverbial noun, subject = what made things happen, to cause an effect

    OF TODAY’S ILLS: prepositional adjective, prepositional object: (ILLS) = effect of this causation.

    IS: verb, 3rd present singular of ‘be’ = the action of becoming what we are now

    THE ABDUCTION: predicate nominative, describes or renames the subject (CAUSATION) = to carry off by force or deception

    Of society: prepositional adjective of ABDUCTION = general population

    INTO A GREAT SOCIAL EXPERIMENT: prepositional adjective of (ABDUCTION); prepositional object: EXPERIMENT = testing for discovery of the unknown or to verify a supposition.

    ACCORDING TO THEORIES: nominal preposition extending the verb ‘is’; prepositional object: THEORIES = hypotenuse, proposed explanation.

    THAT ARE NOW KNOWN: subordinate phrase modifying the objective noun (THEORIES); verb: ARE: 3rd present plural of ‘be’; adverb: NOW = present time; predicate nominative describes or renames subordinate phrase subject (THEORIES): KNOWN = understand from experience.

    TO BE FALSE: prepositional adjective of ‘known’ = conclusion of what we know from experience, the theory is false.

    HOPE THIS HELPS. The theories and means of abduction are further down in the post. -JOS

  • Vernon nielsen Says:
    July 8th, 2009 at 12:19 pm

    RE: larry
    Dont judge me as that larry, You dont know me in any sense and its pretentious to assume you do.

    A call to brotherhood sent to everyone in our state offices and our federal offices
    July 8th, 2009 / Author: Verndewd
    I have some inside info that I wont divulge in any sense but this,

    Certain groups are very angry about legislators calling americans homegrown terrorists, the more unconstitutional laws that are passed the more the chatter increases and the chatter isnt good.

    I think its past time that all of you commit yourselves to the founding fathers vision and to american people as sovereign citizens who are in charge of their government.

    I highly recomend you engage in a public campaign to bond together as brothers of this great nation ASAP I may not get more of this information but what i have heard is major. people are sick of Government not holding itself accountable to the people, you can forget the cia civil unrest guidelines brothers and sisters, these globalist bankers dont know the day or hour that they will be forced to account for their manipulation of you and us.

    http://theruthlesstruth.com/wordpress/?p=2588 we wont tolerate rothschilds issuing such statements to the effect that it lessens american sovereignty. time to rally around the flag boys and girls.

    http://theruthlesstruth.com/wordpress/?p=2575 i dont care what pope issues what statement about one world control of anything, that isnt what america is about.

    You are charged with making your patriotic commitment known !!! make it so. if we need to pass laws against tyrants and traitors to ward off electronic id and forced RFID implants we have a serious problem. You will prove your patriotism or be fired.

  • Vernon nielsen Says:
    July 8th, 2009 at 12:29 pm

    Vern,
    (You have been programed to react to passion and conviction as a “psychological technique”. )

    We have all been programmed larry , look at hwere we are due to the fact that we didnt take the initiative.when you point one finger three point back.

    (Contrary to your politically correct approach to debate, Not every strong word should be taken as a personal attack. While It is wildy popular to defend our position by taking offense to an otherwise perfectly suitable tone concerning this subject ( politics ) your reply shows that we first communicate that we have been offended. In doing this we have achieved our objective of steering the debate in a direction that emphasises feelings, and sensitivity, instead of addressing the questions or defending our statements.)
    That is one way of viewing it where as another is that we are in control and never lost control and even if they burned the bill of rights it is within our power to assert them and condemning others is counter productive. naysayers simply need to be ignored.

    (A very predictable approach to ending debate by one who cannot defend their position)
    I for one and I suspect you are quite capable of defending our positions, i dont need to attempt to discredit you because like it or not we NEED to work together, here again the so called programming causes friction, in the lack of ability to unify.
    We dont need to argue we need to act, we dont need to petition less than patriotic americans because there are enough of us to do an effective job.
    Trust in your vision and act on that , all should do the same and realize there isnt time to nitpick techniques, there is only time to do what you feel you must.

  • Publius Huldah Says:
    July 8th, 2009 at 3:54 pm

    Friends:

    I can’t make heads or tails out of some of the stuff which has been posted on this page. Here is George Orwell’s classic essay on HOW TO WRITE so that one can be understood: “Politics and the English Language.”

    http://www.orwell.ru/library/essays/politics/english/e_polit

    The goal is to eliminate all pomposity in writing. Read it & Learn! PH

    Writing is hard work: It takes time to translate

  • Vindiciamus Says:
    July 8th, 2009 at 5:02 pm

    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/theconfederatenationalist/

    Please visit and learn the 12 Basic Principles of Representative Republic for free.Please overlook the title of the forum and explore the files section of the site.

    “Vindiciamus”

  • Allan Hampton Says:
    July 8th, 2009 at 7:14 pm

    Vindiciamus,

    I visited the site and all I could read is your description which I agree with. We agree our government Officials do not honor their Oath of Office. What do you suggest we the People do about that or government unconstitutionality in general?

    Allan

  • Vindiciamus Says:
    July 8th, 2009 at 7:24 pm

    Click on the files section,first we need to relearn what our form of Governance really is. Below is but the first of 12 spicific Principles that our founding fathers intended.If you wish i can post all 12 here on this list for all to read.

    A Principle of the Traditional American Philosophy
    1. The Spiritual is Supreme
    “. . . all men are created . . . endowed by their Creator . . .” (Declaration of Independence)

    The Principle

    1. The fundamental principle underlying the traditional American philosophy is that the Spiritual is supreme–that Man is of Divine origin and his spiritual, or religious, nature is of supreme value and importance compared with things material.

    Religious Nature

    2. This governmental philosophy is, therefore, essentially religious in nature. It is uniquely American; no other people in all history have ever made this principle the basis of their governmental philosophy. The spiritual brotherhood of men under the common fatherhood of God is a concept which is basic to this American philosophy. It expresses the spiritual relationship of God to Man and, in the light thereof, of Man to Man. To forget these truths is a most heinous offense against the spirit of traditional America because the greatest sin is the lost consciousness of sin.

    The fundamentally religious basis of this philosophy is the foundation of its moral code, which contemplates The Individual’s moral duty as being created by God’s Law: the Natural Law. The Individual’s duty requires obedience to this Higher Law; while knowledge of this duty comes from conscience, which the religious-minded and morally-aware Individual feels duty-bound to heed. This philosophy asserts that there are moral absolutes: truths, such as those mentioned above, which are binding upon all Individuals at all times under all circumstances. This indicates some of the spiritual and moral values which are inherent in its concept of Individual Liberty-Responsibility.

    An Indivisible Whole

    3. The American philosophy, based upon this principle, is an indivisible whole and must be accepted or rejected as such. It cannot be treated piece-meal. Its fundamentals and its implicit meanings and obligations must be accepted together with its benefits.

    The Individual’s Self-respect

    4. The concept of Man’s spiritual nature, and the resulting concept of the supreme dignity and value of each Individual, provide the fundamental basis for each Individual’s self-respect and the consequent mutual respect among Individual’s. This self-respect as well as this mutual respect are the outgrowth of, and evidenced by, The Individual’s maintenance of his God-given, unalienable rights. They are maintained by requiring that government and other Individuals respect them, as well as by his dedication to his own unceasing growth toward realization of his highest potential–spiritually, morally, intellectually, in every aspect of life. This is in order that he may merit maximum respect by self and by others.

    Some Things Excluded

    5. This concept of Man’s spiritual nature excludes any idea of intrusion by government into this Man-to-Man spiritual relationship. It excludes the anti-moral precept that the end justifies the means and the related idea that the means can be separated from the end when judging them morally. This concept therefore excludes necessarily any idea of attempting to do good by force–for instance, through coercion of Man by Government, whether or not claimed to be for his own good or for the so-called common good or general welfare.

    It excludes disbelief in–even doubt as to the existence of–God as the Creator of Man: and therefore excludes all ideas, theories and schools of thought–however ethical and lofty in intentions–which reject affirmative and positive belief in God as Man’s Creator.

    The Truly American Concept

    6. Only those ideas, programs and practices, regarding things governmental, which are consistent with the concept that “The Spiritual is supreme” can justly be claimed to be truly American traditionally. Anything and everything governmental, which is in conflict with this concept, is non-American–judged by traditional belief.

    This applies particularly to that which is agnostic, or atheistic–neutral about, or hostile to, positive and affirmative belief in this concept based upon belief in God as Man’s Creator. There is not room for doubt, much less disbelief, in this regard from the standpoint of the traditional American philosophy. Its indivisible nature makes this inescapably true. This pertains, of course, to the realm of ideas and not to any person; it is the conflicting idea which is classified as non-American, according to this philosophy.

    America a Haven For All Religions

    7. The traditional American philosophy teaches that belief in God is the fundamental link which unites the adherents of all religions in a spiritual brotherhood. This philosophy allows for no differentiation between them in this unifying conviction: “. . . all men are created . . . endowed by their Creator . . .” This philosophy is all inclusive as to believers in God. Although America was originally colonized predominantly by adherents of the Christian religion, and principally by Protestants, the Founding Fathers steadfastly conformed to this all-embracing character of the approach of the American philosophy to religion. This was expressly and affirmatively indicated in the proclamation of 1776 of the fundamental American philosophy, of its basic principles, in the Declaration of Independence. This was further indicated, negatively, in 1787-1788 by the Framers and Ratifiers of the Constitution–as a “blueprint” for the structure of the then proposed Federal government, with strictly limited powers–by not permitting it to possess any power with regard to religion. This implied prohibition against the Federal government was reinforced by the addition of the First Amendment expressly prohibiting it, through the Congress, from making any law “respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof . . .”–the words “an establishment of religion” being intended to mean, specifically and only, a church or religious organization which is established, supported and preferred by the government, like the Church of England establishments then existing in some of the States.

    The Conclusion

    8. Belief in Man’s Divine origin is the foundation of the fundamental American principle which controls his relationship to government: that Man–The Individual–is of supreme dignity and value because of his spiritual nature.

    “Vindiciamus”

  • Allan Hampton Says:
    July 9th, 2009 at 4:36 am

    Vindiciamus,

    I thank you for your efforts but from my perspective you are mixing apples and oranges. For myself, I’ll leave religion entirely up to the free choice of the individual and government completely out of the religious picture.

    God’s law is supreme only over those individuals that accept it freely; that includes those individuals serving in a government position. The punishment for those individuals that do not accept God’s law is death. God is the judge and enforcer of his law and will enforce his law in his own good time – after the death of the individual – to my best understanding. Only God, not man or man’s government, is the judge of sin and sinners.

    Government legislation (law) is enforced by government; legislation outside delegated powers is unconstitutional, not valid and null and void.

    Constitutional Law is American’s supreme Law of the Land and private, non-government, Americans are obligated to enforce that Law on government Officials. Americans are obligated to judge, not sin & sinners, but crime and criminals. Americans’ vehicle of enforcement is written in the Constitution at; Article I, Section 2, and Amendments 5, 6, and 7, of the Bill of Rights.

    BTW I could not access “files” at your site without being a member.

    Allan

  • Vindiciamus Says:
    July 9th, 2009 at 4:35 pm

    Allan

    To read the files sign up as a member and after you are done reviewing the info simply remove yourself from the forum.

    As far as the first principle is concerned it is trying to explain that one must be of a spiritual nature,and NEEDS to understand that the “Declaration of Independence is what our Constitution is predicated upon.In doing so one excepts that if there is a creator,Christian or otherwise,he by his spiritual nature will adhere to a virtues conscious and not stray from the original intent of governance. If one believes in a spiritual higher power as the Declaration implies then that leaves open acceptance to receive unalienable rights,which the Constitution protects.

    A Principle of The Traditional American Philosophy
    2. Fear of Government-over-Man

    “In questions of power, then, let no more be heard of confidence in man, but bind him down from mischief by the chains of the Constitution” – Thomas Jefferson (Kentucky Resolutions)

    The Principle

    1. A main principle of the traditional American philosophy is expressed in the phrase: fear of Government-over-Man.

    Cause of Fear

    2. This fear is due to the ever-present, never-changing weaknesses of human nature in government which are conducive to “love of power and proneness to abuse it,” as Washington’s Farewell Address warned. This means public officials’ human weaknesses, especially as aggravated by the corresponding weaknesses among the self-governing people themselves. It is a truism that government’s power needs only to exist to be feared–to be dominant, over the fear-ridden, without ever needing to be exercised aggressively.

    Man–Good and Evil, Mixed

    3. This philosophy asserts that human nature is a mixture of good and evil, of strength and weakness, and is not perfectible during life on earth. There is “a portion of virtue and honor among Mankind” and the better side of Man, the Individual, can be strengthened and made more dependable through spiritual growth. The resulting moral development is conducive to sound conduct, in keeping with conscience in the light of a personal moral code based upon religious-moral considerations. Yet history teaches that the previously mentioned weaknesses of human nature provide just cause for never-ceasing fear of Government-over-Man.

    Government Like a Fire

    4. Americans of the period 1776-1787 firmly believed in the soundness of the accepted maxim that “government is like a fire: a dangerous servant and a fearful master;” that, to be useful, it must be strictly controlled for safety against its getting out of hand and doing great harm. Through the generations, the people have considered that this maxim expresses one of history’s most profoundly important lessons for Free Man. This maxim is based upon the knowledge that, in last analysis, government is force and must be feared and controlled accordingly. The great fear in 1787-1788 of the new, central government under the proposed Constitution was evidenced by the fact that the State Ratifying Conventions proposed scores of amendments, designed chiefly to keep under more rigid control what they considered to be this potential monster of power so dangerous to their liberties: the central, or Federal, government.

    The Views of Jefferson and Madison and the Kentucky and Virginia Resolutions

    5. This fear was of abuse by government of power granted to it by the people, as well as of usurpation by it of power denied or prohibited to it by them, through the Constitution, to the injury if not doom of their liberties–of the God-given, unalienable rights of The Individual. Jefferson merely voiced the lesson of history–well known to, and accepted by, his fellow Americans–when he stated, in the “Diffusion of Knowledge” Bill in 1779, in the Virginia legislature:

    “. . . experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms [of government], those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny . . .”

    Jefferson also expressed this traditional, American viewpoint in his famous writing known as the Kentucky Resolutions, as adopted in 1798 by the Kentucky legislature, in these words in part:

    “. . . it would be a dangerous delusion were a confidence in the men of our choice to silence our fears for the safety of our rights: that confidence is everywhere the parent of despotism: free government is founded in jealousy and not in confidence; it is jealousy and not confidence which prescribes limited Constitutions to bind down those whom we are obliged to trust with power: that our Constitution has accordingly fixed the limits to which and no further our confidence may go; . . . In questions of power then let no more be heard of confidence in man, but bind him down from mischief by the chains of the Constitution.”

    These Kentucky Resolutions are closely akin to the contemporaneous Virginia Resolutions of 1798 adopted soon afterward by the Virginia legislature–written mainly by Madison who was, as usual, in close touch with Jefferson in this period. Both sets of resolutions were protests against what were considered and denounced as abuses and usurpations of power by the Federal government–chiefly through the Alien and Sedition Laws adopted by Congress in 1798. Such protests by a State legislature were in keeping with the remedies available to the States in such a situation – remedies contemplated by The Framers as being within the constitutional system–as discussed, for example, by Madison in 1788 in The Federalist number 46. The Sedition Act was designed to restrict freedom of speech and of the Press so as to stifle criticism of Federal officials and therefore grossly violated the Constitution; and it was opposed, for example, by John Marshall, as a member of Congress, and by Alexander Hamilton–the latter stating: “Let us not establish a tyranny.” (These laws soon disappeared from the statute books, due to their widespread unpopularity which the above-mentioned 1798 resolutions had helped initially to foster.)

    Precedents for Other States’ Protests Such As The Hartford Convention Resolutions

    6. These 1798 protests by the Kentucky and Virginia legislatures were not the first such development in the life of the Republic. A predecessor resolution of protest, for example, had been adopted by the Virginia legislature in 1790: the “Protest and Remonstrance” against the assumption by the Federal government of the war-incurred debts of the States, as being unconstitutional. This protest set a precedent for the above-mentioned 1798 resolutions. They, in turn, set precedents for similar resolutions of protest adopted by various States–in New England, the North, the Mid-west as well as in the South–during the following decades when they considered themselves to be victimized, potentially or actually, by either abuses or usurpations of power by the Federal government; such developments being the subject of comment, for example, by former President John Quincy Adams in his celebrated “Jubilee” address of April 30, 1839. (Some of these later resolutions even relied on the Virginia Resolutions of 1798 as a precedent.) An example is the set of resolutions adopted in 1815, during the war with England, by the Hartford Convention–representing Massachusetts, Connecticut, Rhode Island, Vermont, and New Hampshire–protesting against what were considered to be Federal usurpations, potential or actual, regarding use of the States’ Militia in war operations and other national defense matters.

    The View of Patrick Henry

    7. In the Virginia Ratifying Convention in 1788, Patrick Henry protested with vehemence against the proposed new Constitution’s lack of adequate limits on the central government’s power, lack of sufficient safeguards against governmental abuses due to human weaknesses among its officials, saying:

    “Show me that age and country where the rights and liberties of the people were placed on the sole chance of their rulers being good men, without a consequent loss of liberty! I say that the loss of that dearest privilege has ever followed, with absolute certainty, every such mad attempt.”

    The American People’s View Also Expressed in the Pittsfield Petition of 1776

    8. These quoted sentiments were accepted as maxims by American leaders in general and by the American people as a whole in that generation of Free Men–free in spirit and willing to fight and die for their Freedom from Government-over-Man. This acceptance is illustrated by the below-quoted words of the Pittsfield, Massachusetts, town-meeting petition of a decade earlier, in May, 1776. It was penned by the Reverend Thomas Allen, ardent friend of American Independence and of Man’s Liberty against Government-over-Man. It stated why Massachusetts needed a new, basic law of the people, a Constitution to be adopted by the people only, in part as follows:

    “That knowing the strong bias of human nature to tyranny and despotism, we have nothing else in view but to provide for posterity against the wanton exercise of power, which cannot otherwise be done than by the formation of a fundamental constitution.”

    This petition reflected the sentiments of the frontier, “backwoods” people of Berkshire County, led by this patriot as head of “The Berkshire Constitutionalists,” over a decade before the 1787 Federal Convention framed the United States Constitution. These were truly the sentiments of the American people at large. They are in harmony with the later phrasing of this idea as follows in The Federalist (number 55, by Madison):

    “As there is a degree of depravity in mankind which requires a certain degree of circumspection and distrust: So there are other qualities in human nature, which justify a certain portion of esteem and confidence.”

    Never-changing Weaknesses of Human Nature Create Never-changing Need for Safeguards

    9. The never-changing need for, and value of, constitutional safeguards against abuse, or usurpation, of power by public servants–as contemplated, and as provided for, by The Framers and Adopters of the Constitution in 1787-1788 and by those who proposed, framed and adopted the first ten Amendments (including the Bill of Rights made applicable against the Federal, or central, government only)–are due to the never-changing weaknesses of human nature in government and among the self-governing people. These weaknesses never change; therefore the need for these safeguards can never change.

    The Conclusion

    10. Fear of Government-over-Man was the dominant fear in that day of uncompromisingly individualistic Americans–Free Men, ever jealous of the safety of Individual Liberty, of the security of their God-given, unalienable rights against violation by government.

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